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      Problem is, it was also really shitty care when it was government run, because they always ran under a shoestring budget.

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      This is not really even about that because yes, people are being held in these places involuntarily, but a lot of people voluntarily check themselves in- Acadia even works on propaganda to get them to do it- and then can’t leave. People who want things like an evaluation for bipolar disorder or an adjustment in medication or just plain old therapy.

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          They were tricked into going there. You seem to be missing that. That isn’t legal. Most of the things in the article aren’t legal.

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          In my town at least, we’ve got it right, that is if we could get more funding and help everyone.

          The system that I went through has tiers, and it’s mostly drug addicts, but man I’ve seen it turn people around completely.

          If a person ends up arrested because they’re tweaking, paperwork is immediately filed to get them into a specialized local hospital. It’s very small, but the people involved really do work hard to get things moving.

          Once the person is in the hospital, they keep them until withdrawal ends or psychosis subsides. Then they enroll them in a very strenuous program that pretty much takes up their entire life for a bit. They try to get the person on Medicaid, but if they don’t qualify the hospital actually has a fund to pay for their treatment. They are provided with a ride to drug classes and group therapy multiple times a week and drug tested daily. If they fail a drug test they take them back to the hospital, unless they’ve been charged criminally, then it’s back to jail first, but ultimately they’ll end up back in the hospital.

          Assigned case managers will visit them at their home at random daily. If the person doesn’t have a home, we have several “sobriety houses” in the area where folks are sent until they can get on their own feet.

          Their case worker files applications for low income apartments and other programs like HUD. The person will ultimately end up in a home if they work the program.

          In my time with the program I seen way more success than failure. The only failures I seen were those people who just made criminality their entire life. I’m talking drug dealing, robbing, constantly fighting. There are some people you just can’t help. I might be wrong there, but I seen a personality type that didn’t seem like it could be helped anyway. It was those folks who found their source of pride in a criminal lifestyle.

          I probably do have some bias on the success of the program because they stick you with people who have progress similar to yours. If you’re a success in the program, you’re generally going to have appointments scheduled alongside people who are doing at least roughly as good as you are.

          When I left the main program in 2020, I always had my appointments with the same people. We were the “no failed drug tests in years” group. Several of those people were homeless but they aren’t now.

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      Here in the UK there was a former inpatient who was released during Thatchers deinstitutionalization in 80s and within weeks he killed his doctor.

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        Maybe that’s due to how badly he was treated by that doctor in the institution…the abuse at those places js why patients avoid them

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    This whole article is horrific. (And wasn’t paywalled to me)

    It goes beyond trapping patients. We’re talking things like beating children and multiple rapes.

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      I was in multiple psych wards in the UK as a minor and hooo boy were they not good. Most were state-run but one time there wasn’t enough beds in state-run wards so I spent 3 months in a private psych ward paid for by the NHS. This was the worst of all. There were clear signs of them taking their time to release people so they’d have enough beds full. I mean we were all there against our will anyway but they dragged it out. It was awful in lots of other ways but I’ll save that for the memoirs.

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    I used to work for a nonprofit psych hospital in a city where there’s also an Acadia hospital. We hired a ton of their staff who started working there well-intentioned but quickly fled after they witnessed how it was run. Patients would tell us horror stories and tell us how grateful they were they didn’t end up there. We’d see patients who discharged from there just a few days prior who were still psychotic as fuck, and we’d treat them ethically and they’d actually get better. They’d leave the Acadia hospital with basically no discharge plan, a lot of times their families weren’t even told where they’d been released to or that they’d been released at all.

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      Reminds me of how there were stories when I lived in L.A. of ERs dumping grandparents with dementia on skid row. People finding out their grandma was wandering around amongst the junkies in a hospital gown and one slipper.

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      I spent a few years repairing medical equipment in halfway homes, psychiatric institutions, and nursing homes. All for low income people. I am definitely going to die before I ever end up in one of those shitholes. Literal hell on earth all of them. People screaming pointlessly for attention or pain relief into hallways populated only with jaded and underpaid Nigerian woman who can barely keep up because they are so understaffed.

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    I encourage others to seek treatment for mental health issues if ever necessary, and I’ve heard a few success stories of people who got the help they needed from a psychiatric inpatient stay. But I’ll be honest, shit like this really worries me.

    I’ve been living with depression for many years now. It terrifies me to imagine what a full-blown crisis would be like – not just because of what I might do, but also because of what the health care system might do to me.

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    My question is what’s gonna happen to them now their theft and kidnapping has been outed?

    Probably nothing, or next to it anyway. Because capitalism is never wrong. 🙄