There’s a citation there. You didn’t want to click it and learn something new?

EDIT: Interesting. The majority of people on lemmy are anti-learning…

Good. This is a massive problem on reddit that makes reddit completely useless, untrustworthy, dangerous, harmful, etc.

For microbiome & health there’s https://www.youtube.com/@HumanMicrobiome.

Here’s my primary claim: “This article is debunking the idea that there are probiotic benefits to eating dirt, which isn’t what we’re talking about at all”

Your claim starts with a misunderstanding. So you should start out by reading the citations more thoroughly.

My claim was that the page you linked is clearly talking about digestive health, not the immune system.

This is incorrect. And they are tightly interwoven.

So it’s worse than I thought, immediately, right off the bat, this page is already jumbling the concepts of digestive health and immune system. Just odd.

It’s not odd, it’s ignorance on your part, so read the citations more thoroughly so you get a better understanding.

That’s not how sources work. You should read about how to vet sources for accuracy before making foolish statements like that.

Stop spreading misinformation. Pretty much everything you just said is wrong.

What you’re doing harms people. You should stop.

You may be suffering from heavy metal poisoning.

Stopped there. Because that’s how your immune system learns.

“I chose to stay ignorant and re-state misinformation that you debunked”

And the bit with heavy metals is bull.

It cites the CDC, so you should contact the CDC and tell them to stop spreading “bull”.

It’s dangerous misinformation, regardless of how you want to phrase it. You do not need to eat dirt or play in dirt.

That’s dangerous misinformation. Debunked: https://humanmicrobiome.info/faq/#is-dirt-good-for-your-microbiome

Yes, common knowledge that is actually dangerous misinformation. Debunked: https://humanmicrobiome.info/faq/#is-dirt-good-for-your-microbiome

I don’t think it compares well to vaccines.

There’s a github issue request to solve this:

Add a local user setting to filter out image / meme posts, similar to NSFW filtering https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4988

Tildes is NOT a good website to recommend.

I made a Tildes account many years ago when it first started up. I knew the founder was a Reddit admin, and I’d heard that it was a haven for Reddit admins & power-mods, but I hadn’t spent much time there.

I recently made a post about the problems with Reddit, and while there were intelligent people and comments on there, the majority of votes went to people who were being extremely dishonest, and even outright lying; attacking me in every way possible while urging the admin to ban me. Neutral people don’t behave like that. So they couldn’t have made it more obvious that Tildes is merely an extension of authority-figures-of-Reddit with a different UI. All the same problematic people & behaviors exist there.

Based on the accusations one of them was making, and my history they were pulling up, one of them was either a Reddit admin or someone in cahoots with one of the Reddit admins that banned me. Tildes is invite-only, and the main accounts attacking me were brand new.

The Tildes admin removed my comments debunking the lies they were telling, and deleted my account.

I agree. When leaving reddit I weighed my choices between setting up a forum or a lemmy community/instance and ultimately chose a forum due to their software being more polished & feature-rich, and the fact that threads can have long-term discussions. I really dislike the time-based nature of reddit & lemmy for many things.

I petitioned the forum software devs to join the fediverse though. It’s nice to see some of them already joining.

There are special capsules designed to survive stomach acid, but there are plenty of studies showing they’re not necessary in most/many cases.

Some people have. It doesn’t work like that. Don’t put food or probiotics up your butt. FMT can be taken orally.

Yes, Culturelle has been shown to be effective for certain conditions, and it’s NOT “double capsule probiotic designed to survive the stomach intact and open in the small intestine”. So what the previous commenter said is misinformation.

Stomach acid is meant to kill anything, whether it’s a pathogen or beneficial probiotic. Yogurt’s probiotics shouldn’t survive the stomach if all is going well.

This is misinformation.

I had SIBO

Not likely. https://humanmicrobiome.info/sibo/

You’re getting your information from poor quality sources.

I eventually took a double capsule probiotic designed to survive the stomach intact and open in the small intestine and my symptoms were mostly resolved within a week.

Almost certainly placebo or random luck. There are a plethora of probiotic and FMT studies that show it can have significant impacts when you take it directly orally:

• https://humanmicrobiome.info/fmt/
• https://humanmicrobiome.info/probiotic-guide/

We are just starting to understand how crucial gut health is to overall health, including mental health, and basically everyone gets their gut biome carpet bombed with antibiotics on the regular.

Agree. I’ve done FMT from 15+ donors and haven’t yet reversed the damage from antibiotics. When I would share studies about this on reddit I would get viciously attacked by people who seemed addicted to antibiotics.

Hopefully people will start going back to independent forums. Google just added a “forums” tab at the top of their search, so they seem to want that too. It’s not good for them that so much information is private on chat programs like Discord, other big social media sites, and concentrated on Reddit.

Lemmy never shows up in search results for me despite some instances having good domain authority, but more people should start using it when it starts showing up.

I use Ecosia instead of Google, but I know that Google recently added a “forums” category to the top of their search. Have you tried that? Hopefully it will help bring back to life independent forums.

There’s a UN conference about this soon. Here’s a discussion and criticism of current actions and non-actions, along with a comparison to the collateral damage aspect.